Wednesday, 16 March 2011

Carl Sargeant's Statement on Ynys Môn in full

Mr Llywydd, I would like to make a statement about the future of the Isle of Anglesey County Council, and about the actions I am taking following the Auditor General’s re-inspection of it, which he reported today.

Last month I made a written statement to the Assembly which described the situation within the Council following Brian Gibbons’ intervention in 2009.  That intervention tried to help the Council help itself, with the support of a high-calibre Recovery Board and a Managing Director with a strong track record in corporate recovery.

That yielded some progress.  But the basic problem remains.  There are too many Anglesey councillors who are more concerned with pursuing their own advantage than with delivering for the island.  The pervasive political culture puts making and breaking political deals ahead of the needs of Anglesey’s citizens.

That makes the Council critically unstable.  As soon as any administration takes office, its rivals start plotting to undermine or supplant it.  There is and can be no trust, no consistency and no stability.  And that means the people of Anglesey can have no confidence in their elected representatives, or hold them effectively to account.

As a result, the membership of political groups changes on a whim, as members back or oppose the latest plot.  In the last 18 months, around a third of all councillors have changed their allegiance between various groups at least once, with scarcely any attempt to justify their actions to those they represent.  Imagine the uproar if 20 AMs or 215 MPs did so.

To compound the problem, a high proportion of councillors are not opposed at election time: they are repeatedly returned by default, because no-one stands against them.  That might be testament to their local influence, but it is not democratic.  It means the members concerned feel immune from challenge and can behave as they please.  They do not need to be accountable to those who elected them, because no-one elected them.  It also means that Anglesey has one of the worst gender imbalances anywhere – only 2 out of 40 councillors are women.

I accept that in politics different allegiances are often formed, usually in order to bring stability to an elected body.

But this persistent instability, shifting loyalties in pursuit of personal advantage and neglect of the public good cannot continue.   It is not democracy – it is the politics of the playground.

It would be wrong to tar all councillors with the same brush.  I know that some are fully committed to change and recovery, and have tried to take a stand.  But they are too few, and their approach does not seem to have any chance of prevailing.  Equally, there may be many who would prefer things to change but feel unable to act.  As my Recovery Board put it, if there is a silent majority which supports recovery, it is still largely silent.  That is not good enough.

The people of Anglesey will know better than me that the island faces some severe challenges.  It is one of the most isolated parts of Wales, with high levels of deprivation in both urban and rural areas.  It has suffered from very significant job losses in recent years as major employers have collapsed or left the island.   The population is ageing and declining, causing serious over-capacity in some of the Council’s services. The current financial climate will present a huge challenge in protecting the frontline services residents need. I will require responsible and decisive action from the council.

 The potential development of Wylfa B may offer an opportunity to address some of these problems, but it is an opportunity that needs to be pursued sensibly and strategically.  This has been very difficult given the large number of changes within the executive.  The constant changes in portfolio holders  responsible for driving this forward in the last few years and presents a damaging impression of the council’s credibility in leading this major inward investment.

Enough is enough.  I have been more than patient in giving the Council a chance to sort things out itself.  I have been more than generous in providing them with the support to do so.  But it is clear that these councillors are unwilling to accept the responsibilities that their public office requires and instead wish to continue acting in a way which is destructive and dangerous to the future of Anglesey and its citizens.
I am not prepared to continue in this way.  I will therefore be bringing our current intervention to an end that sought in vain to support the Council to resolve its own problems.  Despite that, I would like to thank my Recovery Board for the very considerable efforts they have made.  They have been instrumental in the progress the Council has made over the past 18 months and it is with the greatest regret that I have to conclude that their current role is largely over. It is unfortunate that even the valuable advice, commitment and dedication of seven very high-calibre individuals has not moved the Council forward in key areas, which underlines the need for a stronger intervention.   I am very pleased that the Board has agreed to lend its very considerable knowledge and expertise to help us move to that new intervention.

I am therefore giving a further and much more stringent direction to the Council, effective immediately.  It will bring stability to the council’s politics, ensure consistency in strategic decision-making and protect front-line services.   The main terms of that direction will be as follows.

Firstly, I accept the Auditor General’s recommendation that I should appoint Commissioners to run the Council.  They will assume all of the functions of the Council’s executive.  The Commissioners will be scrutinised by the Council and its committees in the same way as the executive is now.

I am pleased to announce that I have appointed 2 commissioners to exercise the Council’s executive functions on my behalf. They are:

Mr Byron Davies - former Chief Executive of Cardiff County Council;
Mr Alex Aldridge – former Leader of Flintshire County Council and the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)

I intend to appoint Mr Mick Giannasi - current Chief Constable of Gwent Police after his retirement from the Police Service at the end of the month.  I also plan to appoint a further two commissioners shortly, and will announce their names as soon as possible.

Secondly, last month I commended the Council’s staff for continuing to provide services in the most difficult of circumstances.  That has to continue, and the existing delegations to the Council’s officers will remain in place.

Thirdly, I will retain the power to appoint the Council’s chief executive.  I will also withdraw from the Council the power to appoint other statutory officers concerned with corporate governance – the monitoring officer and the chief finance officer.  It is vital that these posts are occupied by high-calibre individuals who are immune from attack by members.  It is equally vital that the council pays heed to their advice.  So I am also directing that any decision of the Council or its committees which goes against the advice of statutory officers must be referred to the Commissioners for confirmation or overruling.
The Auditor General also recommended that I should consider instigate a review of electoral boundaries on the island As an alternative, he suggested that I should direct the Council to hold a referendum on an elected Mayor, and that I should consider directing the Council to develop and implement a strategy that promotes democratic renewal.

I will be immediately instructing the Local Government Boundary Commission to undertake a review of the electoral boundaries of the Authority and will be considering what action can be taken to support democratic renewal.

  
I also agree fully with the Auditor General and with my Recovery Board that a wider programme of democratic renewal is absolutely essential on the island.  More people need to stand for election, and Council politics needs a much greater focus on delivering for citizens. I will be writing to the Electoral Commission to ask them to be involved in this work.

In light of the reduced role of councillors within the Authority which will be brought about by my directions, I will be asking the Independent Remuneration Panel to conduct a review of the allowances of councillors in the Authority with a view to them reflecting their diminished roles.   I will be writing to them immediately to ask them to undertake this work.

The actions I am outlining today are not decisions that any Minister can take lightly.  Indeed, they are decisions that I can only take with a profound sense of sadness.  I would much prefer to trust local authorities and their members to discharge their considerable public responsibilities effectively, accountably and conscientiously.   Virtually all of them do.  But where they do not, we have no alternative but to act.

When I addressed the Council a year ago I said that I didn’t want to be there under those terms.  I didn’t want to be intervening in their affairs.  And I didn’t want to be spending large sums of public money on helping them to recover.  I offered them a simple challenge: sort yourselves out, act responsibly for the people you represent and we will leave you alone.   It is a challenge that they have clearly failed to meet.
Mr Llywydd, the actions and attitudes of too many of Anglesey’s councillors have indeed left me with no alternative.   They have demonstrated that they care more about their personal standing than about securing recovery.  They have spurned the chance to help themselves which Brian Gibbons gave to them with his original intervention, and the intensive support which they have received as a result.  Most importantly, they have betrayed those who elected them, and those that they are supposed to serve.
The direction I am making today will help restore effective governance; it will ensure better strategic leadership; and it will protect vital services from the damage that continued petty political bickering causes.   I intend that it will continue at least until the next local elections.   But it is clearly not a long-term solution.   That can only lie in the sort of democratic renewal that the Auditor General and my Recovery Board have advocated.  So if Anglesey Council has a future, it is in the hands of the people of the island.  All I have done today is to protect them for now from the harmful influence of those who have unfortunately consistently let them down.   The people of Angelsey deserve better and this action intends to see that they get it.

93 comments:

kp said...

And so say all of us.

Well done Mr WAG (but quite why it took you so long I will never know).

Groundhog Day said...

I was under a misapprehenstion that if commissioners were brought in to run the council then all councillors would be suspended. It appears not, the only sanction being considered against them is a reduction of their allowances. What a lot of nonsense, they should all be booted out and let the commissioners get on with the job. What is the point of councillors without any powers? Sargeant, y0u have missed an opportunity to clear this snakepit once and for all but have failed. And will the dud Bowles be allowed to continue with what he has been a failure at with his huge salary in place?You bet!

Anonymous said...

The Senior Officers who have brought this Council to its knees carry on as usual. What a disgrace.

The Red Flag said...

Groundhog and Anon 16:45. Both spot-on.

Anonymous said...

"As my Recovery Board put it, if there is a silent majority which supports recovery, it is still largely silent. That is not good enough."

What happened to the Councillor who would not stay silent - "he was named, shamed and got branded a trouble maker"

Anonymous said...

I look forward to the new Commissioners being thoroughly slagged off as being inefficient, biased, corrupt, squashers of Human Rights,Freemasons etc etc etc etc by a handful of those with vested interest on the comments board of this and other local blogs. Wont take long. Popcorn supply bought.

Anonymous said...

Whilst Cllr McGregor is spotting off on TV tonight that its all the Councillors fault. Carl Sargeant in his speech today says:

"It would be wrong to tar all Councillors with the same brush. I know that some Councillors are fully committed to change and recovery, and have tries to take a stand, but they are too few and their approach does not seem to have any chance of prevailing"

All though not named this must show that Cllr Durkin and those along with him are to be commended for their stance. After all Cllr Durkin has been calling for a stronger intervention for a long time and one has to wonder in the light of todays statement from Carl Sareagent why it has taken till now?

Anonymous said...

Only one question I want answering.

Does trouble maker Bowles still have a job and if so, WHY?

Anonymous said...

Hooray. 29 minutes. It starts with the slagging of Carl Sgt. Good job I bought the popcorn ready yesterday.

Anonymous said...

SHAME ON ALL, YES ALL, COUNCILLORS, FOR ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN.
Do the decent thing, and fade away.....PLEASE.....you are no longer welcomed.....and keep away from our doorsteps next Election !!

Anonymous said...

19:28
Did you bother to vote at the last election?

Anonymous said...

If there was any decent Councillor(s)on this Island, any Councillor(s) with a degree of honesty and integrity, then he or she would tender their resignation immediately, that way the People would know that they had done the honourable thing, but, on Anglesey thay don't do that, their reputation is in tatters and the People are fighting back... the first thing Commisssioners is Right the Wrongs.

Anonymous said...

19:37.
Hello Clive, surely your not still with us?

Anonymous said...

Why, 19.39, is that something he always used to say? Not far wrong then really is he?

Anonymous said...

Hmmm, someone has had the chance to read and digest seven lines of a comment (the 19 37 one), write a snide reply, insert the word verification and hit send all in the space of two minutes!!!

Amazing.

Anonymous said...

Actually, I wrote the posting 19:37, and from the very first day of the druid blog you will find my postings, I am the complete opposite to McGregor, and will not rest until these Commissioners have an inquiry into breaches of article 8 of the Human Rights Act, so that the victims of this Council can be heard. Their unconstitutional decisions have ruined this Island. If they hadn't behaved so unreasonably for years we would not be living in poverty.

Anonymous said...

See what you've done now 19 47, you've aroused the Human Rights bore. Heaven help us. Wont need my horlicks to get off to sleep tonight.

Anonymous said...

For those who are interested Article 8 of the Human Rights Act, is your right to enjoy your property, without some clown, thinking that they are elected, that they have the power to take your property from you for a few pence, and then get planning permission on it after YOU have been refused. This is the breaches of Article 8 we have here on Anglesey, and that's why people try their best to shut the blogger down when he mentions it. Property and Planning are all part of the Anglesey Councillors Cake, they don't like normal people knowing about it, do you know any victims?

Bored ! said...

19.59.........my friend, you are all at sea with the HRA.....go get some education, and stop boring people.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what the Conservative Party of Wales make of this day in Anglesey, seeing as Plaid Cymru have failed us, Labour have ignored us, can you give us some insight of the Conservative Party's opinion please Paul.

Anonymous said...

I take it Bored 20:12 is as from today an Ex Councillor.. unwanted, and unwelcome.

Anonymous said...

Lets not forget.

The reason Carl Sargeant has taken these steps is what has happened since January, all was going fairly fine till then.

Thats until a number of power hungry trouble making Councillors decided to try and take over with the help of Albert Owen MP and I W Jones brokering.

To day we see IWJ supporting Carl Sergeants move, with Albert Owen no where to be seen.
NEED ANYMORE BE SAID?

Anonymous said...

It does seem strange that the Labour MP for Anglesey is missing in action, wonder what his excuse will be?

Maybe, the people revolution in Anglesey and the latest bad news is too much for him, shame he wasn't there when the people came to him with complaints and he bottled it.

Anonymous said...

19 59.

Lawyers are normally greedy people who jump at the chance of making a quick buck especially in clear cut cases. What did they advise you to do?

Anonymous said...

Albert is probably staying out of it because this is a WAG matter and as such has nothing to do with him.

Him becoming embroiled in it could be viewed as 'Westminster interference'

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Mark Isherwood will be making a statement tomorrow in the Assembly about this affair? He seems to be the person that gets the most attention from the unheard residents of Anglesey.

Anonymous said...

Westminster Interferrence, isn't that what he gets paid for? Or is it Westminster Indifference( Don't care)
I think Albert Owen can't face the people, that's why he's hiding down there out of the way.

Anonymous said...

It's not a WAG matter, it's the people that matter. The day we let the monkeys run the zoo, even when they had retired or been unelected was the day this Council went downhill.

Anonymous said...

IoACC are a costly public liability and it's about time someone put a stop to their rampage.

AH

Groundhog Day said...

I predict..... When the govt have passed legislation to decrease the number of MPs and Anglesey and Gwynedd become one constituency then Albert will be out of office on his ear . Bur wait, what do we hear from Cardiff from the Labourite Carl Sargeant about a mayor for our fair isle. Just the job for our bland Albert methinks. I can just picture old Al with both his chain of office and his bald head glinting in the Anglesey sun.

Anonymous said...

The whole intervention has become one big money making job for Carl Sargeant's boys and has been in the making for weeks, making the Audit report a sham.

The choice of Commissions are also very suspect with one in particular named and shamed whist the leader of a council. which Mark Isherwood AM raised today in the Assembly, leaving Carly boy, foaming at the mouth, which can be watched on the live recording of the Assembly meeting.

Watch this space.

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Anonymous said...

It's a WAG matter. Local government is devolved to the assembly. That's why all the external involvement is WAG.

You can say whatever you like but that is an inescapable truth. It's none of Albert's business.

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Anonymous said...

Well if any of them had any decency they would resign, can't see it happening myself which just proves what kind of people they are.
It's true though that our future rests with us unfortunately all the sheep will vote for the same people again

my bins are still being emptied said...

Does anybody know what happened to the big police investigation?

Anonymous said...

How could Durkin have played a massive part ? The biggest part of this Councils downfall began in 1996 not 2008.

cosied up... said...

Why does anybody in a position of real authority and responsibility (Sargeant, the recovery board, WAO, WLGA, IWJ, AO)pussyfoot around and refuse to name the Councillors responsible. Who were the instigators of the putsch in January? Come on Druid; you know who they were. If you want a position of responsibility you should at least have the guts to name them. If you refuse then you don't deserve a vote in May.

Paul Williams said...

Anon 23.33. There is no secret as to who was involved in the January incident. All you need to do is read the posts from January.

pussyfooting around said...

Typical politicians answer.

old fart said...

It seems you haven't got the stomach for saying what you see. Not a good start methinks. We don't need another IWJ do we.

Anonymous said...

Anglesey is in the unfortunate position of being an experiment to improve the quality and effectiveness of local government in the UK while at the same time being in the forefront of the economic decline which will affect the whole of the UK in the next few years. While the current situation in Anglesey may be bad, being the first area to tackle these problems head on could have long term advantages in the future.

Anonymous said...

Old fart

Its has already been said. The names of those involved are well documented in the posts since January including IWJ. Just take a look for yourself and stop taking opportunities to be silly.

Anonymous said...

It's their first day in the Offices today, I hope they have got plenty of disinfectant, the whole place stinks.

Carl Sargeants " Betrayed" statement is what we have known for years , and I will have no sentiment for the Council of Betrayal.

One Of The Many That HatesYour Guts said...

Now then, Mr Bowles. Who did you say would be leaving here with their reputation enhanced, whilst other will leave with theirs in tatters?

Anonymous said...

So who have we got coming?

A friend of Clive McGregor?

A very tainted ex Leader of another Council?

And a has-been from Cardiff?

Plus two yet unnamed.

God help us.

Old Fart said...

I'm not being silly. A prospective Assembly candidate should be expected to be forthright and totally honest. If not, we're back to square one. We need representatives with backbone for our Island. Remember it's us the rate and tax payer who are paying politicians wages. What do we get for it - representatives that answer questions with questions and sidestep the difficult stuff. It looks like the Druid is starting on the long decline already. That's my view on it. Not silly at all, I expect integrity and guts in a representative.

Anonymous said...

Let me be as simple as I can, if we want this Council back, we can take it, if you want to be treated as an equal, then protest, silently, the internet here is the place to protest, forget the old skins and the clowns we had before, forget them all, it's our turn now, we want to clean out this Council, and we will, people first, politics can piss off!!

Anonymous said...

£270K per annum could have been better spent. What a waste of money.
Commisioners in - Not before time.

Maes Llwyn said...

Lest we forget, who was it who tipped the balance towards calling in the Commissioners in January of this year, by their greed and blind ambition to be Leader and Economic development portfolio holder......no other than Councillors JC, and the pipe puffer, egged on by one or two other low lives !

Anonymous said...

There has been a leak from Wylfa and everybody has to be evacuated from Anglesey and it will be shut down for the next 50 years. Problem solved!

What a Con said...

You couldn't make it up if were not true.
Trouble Maker Clive McGregor is to be allowed to stay on as Leader till May!
Not one thing will change. There may even be a judicial Review into Carl Sargeant's decisions?

Anonymous said...

Forget McGregor he's had his day, and it will be remembered as being pointless, right the wrongs, commissioners, right the wrongs.

Maes Llwyn said...

Let us be correct.
The Commissioners will quite properly have a forward-looking agenda, to get this Council, howsoever constituted, back on the rails, by whatever lawful means.
This is the point - they will NOT, repeat NOT, be raking over the coals of the past....that has been one of the causes of this debacle.
Let us move on.

Anonymous said...

No way mate, the victims want to be listened to, sorry but we can't move forward if we don't apologise for the past.

Anonymous said...

If we think that the past deeds can be forgiven and forgotten, and the evil-doers rewarded for this Council to move forward, then nothing will be further from the truth. Bowles was looking for blood on the carpet, what sort of statement is that?, who and what is he protecting?

Right the wrongs.

Anonymous said...

11.11 is spot on.
The problem with Anglesey is that its people, and its politicians, have been too fixated on the past for too long....narrow, navel gazing, parochialism etc.the future starts TODAY.
Lets get on with it.

The Red Flag said...

No way mate, the victims want to be listened to

Well unfortunately hell will freeze over first before that appears on the Commisioners agendas. The Commisioners will draw a line under this and only look to the future - that is why they are coming.

I have my doubts as to whether it will work thogh when more than half of the original cast will still be present. Lines can only be drawn and the future looked to if the past is dismantled completely - personalities and all.

If they can't draw a line and move it forward then they will fail and in turn that leaves only two alternatives - disbanding the entire council and running the whole thing with a junior Minister and staff, or terminating the council and forcing amalgamation with Gwynedd.

Maes Llwyn said...

The Red Flag is spot on, as always.
Those who are obsessed with the past will now be left far behind.
Progress is upon us, I hope !

Anonymous said...

No way Mates. Those who have involved themselves in Dishonesty and Corruption will be brought to justice by one form or another.

If the New commissions try to undermine that principle then I know of one County Councillor who will remind them, that if they fail the people again,then they can sling their hook also.

Anonymous said...

11.50
Then you my friend will be first in the minority queue to be left behind.
The majority are firmly for the future.

The Red Flag said...

No way Mates. Those who have involved themselves in Dishonesty and Corruption will be brought to justice by one form or another.

Much as I fully support a full and thorough investigation, along with prosecutions and forced recovery of monies/grants and if needs be seizure of assets, I don't think that's going to happen.

If it pans out the way you want (and I suspect it is doomed to) then in a couple of years or less we will end up with no elected council at all and a completely unaccountable junior Minister from Cardiff in control of what will become a temporary WAG fiefdom pending an inevitable amalgamation with Gwynedd. And that will then draw a line under it permanently because the council will cease to exist alone with all it's sins.

Anonymous said...

I don't believe one word that is written about the past being forgotten, if YOU were a victim of greed and power, would you want to sit down and forget the past, you would be the first there, banging on about your treatment, there is a small group who are privy to a list of Clowns who were elected and have ruined people, by abuse.

If they were your parents or children would you stand and do nothing?, that doesn't apply to Red Flag and Maes Llwyn, they think they are the Law, infact, it's a shame they can't read the list, and the damage they have done, then maybe they would be a bit more mature and concerned about their fellow human being.

Did you hear about the Councillor taking over a road, so that his mate could get planning? This is what we are talking about, should he be rewarded? or should he be named and shamed. The owner was refused planning, the Counciilors mate got planning, and to rubber stamp it, the road was adopted by the Council, right the wrongs.

The Red Flag said...

Well sadly matey I don't think any other deal is on the table. Like I said personally the lot should be hammered wherever possible and as I've said before evry councillor stood down and barred from standing again innocent or guilty.

But the insertion of Commissioners lifts it above that now and is moving it into a new arena. They will attempt to move forward. if they can't Anglesey will ultimately lose it's own council and from their perspective that will then be an end to it because whatever antics this council got up to, Gwynedd/Caernarfon won't give a damn as it will be before their time so to speak.

By all means fight on and I wish you luck by the barrel load because the way some people - both Councillors and Officers - have behaved is way beyond criminal but I have the feeling now that if this doesn't stop then they will just force an end to it by amalgamation.

Anonymous said...

12.07
A Councillor taking over a road so that his friend could get planning ?
What is that allegation all about ?
Tell us more, if its true and correct !
Sounds delusional to me.

Anonymous said...

Are the commissioners there for the People of Anglesey or to save the skins of the greedy?

Anonymous said...

"Sounds delusional to me."

Yes, lots of delusional stuff is talked about round here, but unfortunately enough of it is actually true to make a lot of it sound plausible even if it's rubbish.

Anonymous said...

To save the skins of the greedy else why is McGregor still in post?

Anonymous said...

Bring in 'Bob the Farmer' as the Mayor, he sorted Wales out when it was Foot and Mouth and he can sort out this merry bunch out without all of this expense that it will cost to bring in Cardiff's 'jobs for the boys' lot.

Anonymous said...

It should be a mandate that no person can stand for Mayor if he or she has had a slice of Anglesey Cake.

Anonymous said...

13.28 I agree entirely.
But the best question is -
What qualifications and abilities should the Anglesey Mayorial candidate have, ideally he/she should be whiter than white.....but is that reasonably achievable in any human being ???
I know that a certain pipe puffer has an ambition !

The Red Flag said...

It should be a mandate that no person can stand for Mayor if he or she has had a slice of Anglesey Cake.

And therein lies the heart of the problem. Nobody has had any slice of cake unless it can be proved in Court and it can't be proved in Court without documetary evidence and witness testimony.

They are safe because all though people speak out, no-one who has access to any direct evidence of criminal wrong-doing is willing to file a complaint with the Police and provide the hard evidence to back it up and most importantlypbe prepared to testify in a public Court..

Bored said...

13.43
Moral : put up or shut up, and move on, or aside ?

Anonymous said...

Don't worry, the day is coming when someone will sing like a canary. Who will be the first?

Maes Llwyn said...

13.53
Mae angen aderyn glan i ganu !
Meddai rhai Cynghorwyr.

Anonymous said...

Diddorol iawn. Beth fydd yn digwydd nawr os gawn blogiau trwy y iaith cyntaf?

Anonymous said...

Digon a frain fydur o gwmpas!

The Red Flag said...

maes Llwyn - Or someone who is willing to cut a deal to save their own skin and turn Queens Evidence.

Maes Llwyn said...

Mae gennyf deimlad y bydd Cynghorwyr efo mwy o amser ar eu dwylo, o hyn ymlaen, yn blogio yn fwy, yn ddienw wrth gwrs, yn y fan hyn ?
Dewch boys, be'sydd gennych i'w ddweud ?

Anonymous said...

Ond lle mae a cwcw - yn barod i neidio i'r nyth poeth

Maes Llwyn said...

RF 14.04
You have too vivid an imagination, my friend.

The Red Flag said...

Maes Llwyn - Think you think a bit like me, that nothing much will happen on the prosecutions front.

Anonymous said...

FAO:- Bored - Change the record, all you ever say is shut up or put up.

I have put up the evidence and have already wiped the floor with your underhanded auditors and drip of a Solicitor, so please be my guest.

If you want the evidence put up, then please do not hesitate to contact me, I have no problem in unravelling complex financial fraud.

Andrew Hughes (Council Enemy No 1)

Maes Llwyn said...

RF 14.54. Absoluely. Zilch !
Lets be positive, lets move on.

The Red Flag said...

For anyone following this I believe (correct me if I'm wrong Andrew) that this centres around the 1998 audit report which can be viewed at this link.

http://photonicanglesey.blogspot.com/2011/03/ceri-stradling-second-report.html

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The Red Flag said...

they have a new gang member who holds a very senior position in IoACC

Councillor or Council Officer?

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Paul Williams said...

Sorry, Andrew, but I think you know why I have deleted your last two comments.

The Red Flag said...

My fault probably Druid. It was me asking the questions he just answered.

Anonymous said...

If you ever need a forensic accountant then make sure you are prepared to pay for his time and don't think he is your tool to toss around for your own means.

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